i hate clockwork orange

S’il y a une couleur qui s’est imposée à moi au fil des années, c’est bien le orange ! Its like shakespeare on crack. So I wanted to ask you guys why would the general movie goers hate this one? Whereas ACO's violence seems to be violence for the sake of violence. Tino_Tonitini2 4 weeks ago #9. Now I love those types of movies, and will continue to love them to this day. I have noticed that a lot of people wrote the same things: 1. Technically it's almost flawless. It's kind of cathartic to see him being sort of tortured when he gets picked up by the authorities. Burgess began writing the novel in early 1961. I recently re-watched the movie with a friend, after it was over he was outraged calling it horrible and disappointing and generally hating it. The teenage protagonist, Alex, narrates his violent exploits and his experiences with state authorities intent on reforming him. Agreed, I think it's a very good film and quite skillfully executed but quite facile thematically and even in its presentation; it's done well but not groundbreaking in anyway really. I remember when I first saw it back in high school I had a very visceral reaction to it, I didn't think very much about the technical or other aspects of it. Don't bother seeing it. I feel the same about blade runner, so over hyped and shit. D’abord timidement testée en petites touches de maquillage, je l’ai progressivement adoptée en accessoires, pour inévitablement lui succomber en total look, à l’image de cette robe récemment shoppée. The film being one of my favorites, I asked him why did he hate it so much. My point is that people hate it because they see terrible violence and it's easy to get swept up into thinking it's gratuitous and pointless, but I do believe the film would not have the same emotional impact it does without having it as shocking as it is, and that the ending proves that the film is definitely not about glorifying or indicting this kind of violence, but about questioning both the violent nature inherent to certain people, and the role of correctional rehabilitation for violent criminals. Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you . by Lulla 16 April 2012. Visually, it is competent and does a good job of feeling sickly and empty whilst offering up some typically classy, Kubrickian flourishes but, and admittedly this was a while ago, I cannot recall anything that particularly blew me away. Maybe even glorified. You actually understand an important element of the film. The violence. In A Clockwork Orange, or in Festen, or in Zero Theorem... you can't really relate to one particular character. I always say, if a movie left me feeling empty or confused then it's a good film. I would rather have diarrhea for 2 hours. Gone Girl had the same reaction, anyone I know who has seen it has left the film kinda not knowing what to say. These are Alex’s defining qualities and he enjoys them because he is good at them. I feel like they are enjoying it for the wrong reasons probably. I can't really blame them - at a glance, the violence seems shocking, abhorrent, and pointless. I think the visual presentation of such explicit violence was vital in making the audience associate that degree of violence with Singin' in the Rain. And the message it's trying to send. The movie has violence, good acting, and good cinematography. A Clockwork Orange is truly nothing like I’ve ever seen in my entire life, for so many reasons. I think that, in terms of it's subject matter, it's very boring and simple and calculated. With Malcolm McDowell, Patrick Magee, Michael Bates, Warren Clarke. I really wanna know why YOU guys like it so much. I don't think the movie at all glorifies any of the violence it depicts, and in fact, I think it strives to portray it as just as ugly as it actually is. I don't know, usually when I find a movie unsettling (most recently, Cheap Thrills) and hard to watch, I LOVE the movie despite being unable to comfortably watch it. Within the book, the characters are normal 16 year olds, just with muderous tendencies. But I don't get that from Kubrick. I hate this movie as well, though I'm not sure I'll be able to adequately articulate why. Anyone hate A Clockwork Orange? Shit, Pauline Kael was dead-right about the later film. I tried watching it again a few years ago, excited to reevaluate it, and turned it off halfway through. You sum it up perfectly, I recently re-watched this movie (also a favorite of mine), and I had forgotten how unrelenting it is from start to finish. In the film, however, two newspaper articles print his name as "Alex Burgess". I know everyone thinks it's so fucking brilliant and amazing and whatever, but I think it's absolute shit. Actor Malcolm McDowell has had several iconic roles, from Alex DeLarge in A Clockwork Orange, to Caligula in Caligula, to Mick Travis in if…. They act like 16 year olds, talk like 16 year olds, the violence happens almost accidentally, in the course of being bored. One thing I took away from it was the question of what type of rehabilitation is morally acceptable, and at what point is society out of line in correcting criminal activity? .a writer of subversive literature." Technically it's almost flawless. Réalisé par : Stanley Kubrick. Thoughts about A Clockwork Orange and why people would hate it. This removes the point of the book, which is that anyone can go down this path of violence, that it's society that holds together and can tear apart. My heart responds to Kubrick's warmer and more humorous films--Dr.Strangelove, Lolita; and like Martin Scorsese I think Barry Lyndon is his greatest film. Everything about A Clockwork Orange *visually/culturally* seems so outlandish and bizarre. Répondre Enregistrer. Is it the violence itself? I would say it's easily the weakest of his post-SPARTACUS films. Whenever I hear that song now, I get slightly queasy in my stomach, which shows the impact of the movie. The book’s author Anthony Burgess has offered a trio of explanations for the title: he’d overheard the phrase “as queer as a clockwork orange” in a London pub in 1945 and assumed it was a Cockney expression; it was a play on the Malay word “orang,” which means “man;” or it was a metaphor for “an organic entity, full of juice and sweetness and agreeable odour, being turned into a mechanism.” It's the people who get overly enamored of it that bother me. The film being one of my favorites, I asked him why did he hate it so much. Genre : Drame, Policier. Wow. They're just using the shock to sell, not as a vehicle to get somewhere else. It was arrogant, stupid, and tried so hard to be over the top that it practically became a parody of itself -- and not in the "look at me, I'm super cool satire" way. It bothers me how the violence is displayed in an almost clinical way. I hate A Clockwork Orange I know everyone thinks it's so fucking brilliant and amazing and whatever, but I think it's absolute shit. We’re not concerned with motives, with the higher ethics. and its two sequels. Pertinence. Edward Elgar's Pomp … The others are all much further down my list of movies I like. It's vulgar, dark, sadistic, ultra-violent and outright repulsive. Isn't that the classic thing people say about Hitchcock's brilliance? In order to take this to the extreme that the argument requires, Kubrick had to display very graphic acts. So nice try, but no. I actually found its presentation quite whimsical. Kubrick just seemed to want violence for violence and sex's sake. I should also mention here that since watching the film I have read and really enjoyed the book, and had no problem grasping the major themes there. . On the whole, it's still just a deeply unpleasant viewing experience for me, and I usually have no problem with graphic violence or unsavory characters, although I guess I don't prefer them. It's vulgar, graphic, and oozing in violence. You know? He didn't need the actual physical depiction of the worst violence. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I assume trump loved this movie if he saw it. I called A Clockwork Orange one of my favorite films, once upon a time. You just essentially described Stanley Kubrick :D. You are not alone. The elimination of his capacity for evil necessarily entails the elimination of his capacity for good. It's also how I feel about Tyler the Creator's verses, if you guys know what I mean? I still kinda feel that way, like maybe I'm completely wrong and everyone else is right? I haven't even seen most of that. I recently re-watched the movie with a friend, after it was over he was outraged calling it horrible and disappointing and generally hating it. His "greatest hits" have a rigid emotionality that turn me off now. I don't think I'd agree now. In the film, his surname is DeLarge, a reference to Alex calling himself The Large in the novel. I don't even need to say that it's one of Kubrick's finest. . Unless "young guys assume selves to be masters of the universe, and decide to let everyone know" is your favorite genre, it's a waste of your time. See more ideas about movies, cult movies, clockwork orange. Ready for a bit of the ol' ultra-violence? I've never actually seen it, but someone is very angry that you all share a dislike for it! A Clockwork Orange is considered a cinematic masterpiece, and ain't nobody taking that away. In the movie the characters sit and plot and plan what terrible things they'll do. It pretends to oppose the police state and forced mind control, but all it really does is celebrate the nastiness of its hero, Alex. (I'm sure you already this, anyways..). How important is freedom of choice if it leads to such dreadful acts? It is a shite film in my opinion, I really could and even now can't stand it. What the film asks is, "How far are we willing to go (/is ethical to go) to rehabilitate even the most reprehensible type of person?" The violence seems too self-indulgent on the parts of the actual movie makers (directors, producers, whatever). Growing up I was fond of Kubrick--absolutely enamored with him really. So any problem someone might have is with the story element of it. But the way this ACO is made feels like Kubrick is so self satisfied with shocking people and that's kinda it. It's fine if you like it, but if you need to insult me or others over it, you're exactly what is wrong with that fandom. But for what? Minister of the Interior "There was a man. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. It's a brilliant book and has the exact opposite message as the movie. The Shining is easily my favorite Kubrick film. It's difficult to put my finger on, but I feel with Kubrick he functions well as a gateway to 'art' films. But then no, I very strongly dislike this movie. This seems like a pretty dangerous way to judge the quality of a film. The responses, posted and voted, are exactly what makes this such a controversial opinion to have. A normal viewer goes into movies expecting a satisfying ending, whether good or bad. .with relieving the ghastly congestion in our prisons. You probably think clockwork is fine cinema by the tenor of your insult. Press J to jump to the feed. Budget : 2 200 000 $ Sortie : 21 avril 1972. I don't even mind if people like it. At the time, it was the equivalent of NC-17, and for good reason. His films are 'arty' but fairly easy to watch (compared with something like Last Year At Marienbad), and you're already well acquainted with him because so many of his images and scenes are well-trodden pop culture references. It's just a dark movie man, plain and simple. Directed by Stanley Kubrick. Because I have to respect any piece of art that can make me FEEL so strongly, even if it means feeling uncomfortable/sickened/what have you, that piece of art moved you in some way and that is what the best art does. That's all I really see. Jun 5, 2019 - Movies and tv shows I like. I just want to turn it off and not talk to anybody about it. I always say, if a movie left me feeling empty or confused then it's a good film. It's exactly the kind of thing I think would appeal to his violent and egomaniacal tendencies. I could use these adverbs to describe a number of widely recognised bad films and without any additional thoughts or discussion about what the film was trying to achieve then it becomes quite a meaningless statement. I don't even need to say that it's one of Kubrick's finest. It was one of the first Kubrick films I saw and it set me up to think of him as overrated when, in reality and after subsequent viewings of his filmography, he really isn't. Nationalités : Royaume-Uni, États-Unis. 5 réponses. It is strange to watch A Clockwork Orange again, in my case for the first time in 20 years. The soundtrack to Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange was released to accompany the 1971 film of the same name.The music is a thematic extension of Alex's (and the viewer's) psychological conditioning. Somebody really hates all these comments and is downvoting them. Anonyme. I loved the book and the movie. The result of the conditioning process is the destruction of the clockwork altogether. 16 April 2012. The Clockwork Orange Blu-ray, out May 31, features a newly restored print of the film, looking better than it has in four decades. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I did realize this time around that it's not the story or characters that I find particularly offensive, but the way they are presented. The main idea explored in the film is around justice, rehabilitation, and how far we want to go as a society to fulfill these "responsibilities." I don't appreciate feeling like shit after seeing this movie because I feel like in the end Kubrick just wanted to make me feel like shit whereas other directors want to make you feel ____ via feeling like shit. For me it's because of the book. Cookies help us deliver our Services. This is a story about a person who is good at destruction and violence. I do remember I felt it was shocking purely for the sake of being shocking, which I took umbrage with at the time. But for me, the violence, while definitely shocking, needed to be exactly as shocking as it was for the payoff of the ending to have any weight. It's hard for people to get past the violence. Kubrick needs the realest, most abhorrently graphic violence to make this movie anything at all. It touches on themes that are rarely talked about let alone visualized. Alex is a fictional character in Anthony Burgess's novel A Clockwork Orange and Stanley Kubrick's film adaptation of the same name, in which he is played by Malcolm McDowell. Very hard to articulate. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He returned to England from colonial teaching posts in Malaya and Brunei in 1959 and noticed that England had changed while he had been abroad. Get that nasty secret off your chest. A new youth culture was beginning to appear, with pop music, milk bars, drugs and Teddy Boy violence. While A Clockwork Orange is brilliant for a lot of reasons (the interesting cinematography, the excellent acting by Malcolm McDowell, etc. It is the quintessential cult film. Just on another level than most other movies I guess? Finally someone else feels the same way. Réponse préférée. A Clockwork Orange is in cinemas from 5 April, with Q&As with Malcolm McDowell after screenings at Picturehouse Central, London on 6 April at 4pm and at Curzon Mayfair on 7 April at 2.30pm. When I was young my friend made me watch it. People seem to be very hung up on the set design and pre-production work that went into the film which is very thorough and original, to be fair. The soundtrack of A Clockwork Orange comprises classical music and electronic synthetic music composed by Wendy Carlos.Some of the music is heard only as excerpts, e.g. And as cult implies it's not accepted by the mainstream audience. I acknowledge that Kubrick was trying to say something with the insane violence and cold nature of the movie, but I have no idea what it is. I feel the same about growing away from Kubrick. Titre original : A Clockwork Orange. We are concerned only with cutting down crime--and. So, to me at least, the "excessive" violence goes towards carrying the main thesis, while not necessarily the plot. Kubrick made much better films with a much more worthwhile resonance during his career and although I might find some resistance to this judging by the top post in this thread, I actually find it to be the worst of all his so-called masterpieces. Trump doesn't give a s*** about his kids lol Except for Ivanka but that's for very, very bad reasons. It would suck to have diarrhea for two hours, stuck on the toilet and (plot twist) you only have access to watch A Clockwork Orange. It was arrogant, stupid, and tried so hard to be over the top that it practically became a parody of itself -- and not in the "look at me, I'm super cool satire" way. Me too, mate. Full Metal Jacket, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, 2001: A Space Odyssey etc... all have an emotional impenetrability. Everyday I watch bits and bits of A Clockwork Orange videos in Youtube because I am a little bit obsessed with (young) Malcolm McDowell (as obvious as it is that he is my icon here!). However, two years after the film’s release, Kubrick took “A Clockwork Orange” out of circulation in the United Kingdom due to accusation that it … you probably worship the transformers saga. The strange thing for me is despite its dark theme. KUBRICK ORIGINALLY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THE MOVIE. A Clockwork Orange is all of those things, but there's no particular moment that I want to revisit, and perhaps that was Kubrick's intent. Graphic, graphic rape scenes (which I could hardly watch years ago, before being raped myself, now those scenes make me quite ill, literally, really nauseous and unable to see straight). Il y a 1 décennie. But, as I've grown and my tastes have expanded, his films--albeit technically brilliant and made by a true auteur--have lessened for me. Must be a clockwork orange fan. Now I'm a minority, and as such many movie goers will have a negative opinion at first. Dislike rigid emotionality, loves Barry Lyndon. But there are many films that are confusing and empty just because they are badly made. I guess because I feel like the violence in those movies carries plot, builds character, etc. It's as pathetic as the person downvoting everyone here for not circlejerking over how great that film is. A Clockwork Orange continued to tick away in Burgess’s imagination until the end of his life. It's not classy cinema, it's not a super brilliant thinkpiece, and it's not worth the bizarre idolization that it gets amongst a certain demographic. Who ever heard of a clockwork orange?' A Clockwork Orange is a dystopian satirical black comedy novel by English writer Anthony Burgess, published in 1962.It is set in a near-future society that has a youth subculture of extreme violence. “If he can only perform good or only perform evil, then he is a clockwork orange—meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil.” ― Anthony Burgess, A Clockwork Orange. I'm rambling. Clockwork Orange. I can't find the source right now but I remamber a paper about the instinct to relate to one group. I don't think I can be more specific with that train of thought. For example, looking at a tennis match, you will always be for one or the other player, but you will not be neutral. When I was watching it I wasn't getting depressed or disturbed, I was just sucked into the dialogue and visuals. It's a technically masterful film, to be sure, but I feel it doesn't tell that story in a particularly effective way. I can understand why people flipped out when it was originally released. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think if you didn't watch that movie before the age of 15 then you won't find it any good. Durée : 2h16 . Twenty minutes I lasted before I walked. I mean that's what the characters in the movies are doing obviously, they're like everyone else said, sociopathic-- but the movie itself has this weird sociopathic quality to it too in a way I'm not sure was intentional. In the future, a sadistic gang leader is imprisoned and volunteers for a conduct-aversion experiment, but it doesn't go as planned. A character enjoying violence like that, ok. That's the true masterpiece the Kubrick mythology acolytes dismiss and overlook. Given some time, it may grow on them, but only time will tell. I love it, yet the fact that I do makes me think I could be a psychopath lmao. See the unfiltered opinions of strangers. Here are a few things you should know about Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange.. 1. User Info: Tino_Tonitini2. Alex n'aime que l'«ultraviolence» et la musique de Beethoven. I think that this is the kind of film where you can't relate to any character. Does the violence carry a bigger message that I'm missing? Although he's treated as a demigod, his films are, well IMO--distancing and cold. I completely understand anyone disliking the film but I also see how some may love it and consider an all time favourite. Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" is an ideological mess, a paranoid right-wing fantasy masquerading As an Orwellian warning. I don't know why anyone likes it, and regret the minutes of my life that I cannot get back that were spent on seeing it. And I, just like you, love every minute of it. I don't about you but this whole concept was just genius to me. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I hate to say it, but it seems at this point someone important needs to die close to Trump for him to take this seriously. (Tilton 39)Some critics have deemed A Clockwork Orange unconvincing, inconclusive, or even a sensationalistic endorsement of violence. If you are trying to say that you enjoy films that leave us asking questions rather than attempting to answer them by any means possible, even at the sacrifice of their artistic integrity, then I agree with you. Dans une Angleterre futuriste. Always hated it. The ending to this one is just mean, plain and simple. 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